I would give it to mystic gohan, Mystic gohan was stronger than ss3 and ssj is 50x stronger than ssj3. @johndanielmclemore: so do you still think it's a tie or close? Waat? A building, glass, and a clock gave Goku trouble in his SSJ4 state when he shoved a mountain off of himself during his fight with Kid Buu while in SSJ3. @deathgorath444: it was a joke but I change and give it to Ssj1 Goku. Na minha opinião tanto o Goku SSJ3 do DBZ quanto o Goku SSJ3 atual são superiores ao Gohan mistico . glass never did anything. Goku wins handily. Goku obviamente son 8 años de diferencia lo que entreno goku ademas de que posiblemente ,si goku hubiera alcanzado el ssj2 en la saga de cell hubiera sido igual o mas fuerte que gohan. What's clear: 1)Mystic Gohan is stronger than Super Buu. re: SSJ3 Goku VS Mystic Gohan {V.2.0} Are people this freakin ignorant. ive never seen anyone come up with legitimate reasons why gt was any worse than buu arc. If we use the multiplier of 50x (since SSJ is 50x base), then SSJ1 GT Goku should win this. Goku es un poco superior o es infinitamente más fuerte. There's no way Mystic Gohan is 50x stronger than Goku in DBZ. also thats no reason to call it "retarded shit". gohan definitivo vs vegetto . So yeas, Ultimate Gohan is much stronger than his father, and his state is CONSTANT because it is not a transformation. You'd think this would have been a prime situation for him to change to SS or SS2 if it were possible for him to do so. Most people figure that the "mystic" stage for Gohan basically superseded the SS transformations, not that it brought his base form up to some ungodly level of power. (In other words he didn't kill them when he could've). how come DB online is perfect, but Gt is the one with the continuity problems? prefer him when he fought Cell but ssj4 goku beat him no contest, i would say Mystic Gohan is about twice as strong as ssj3 Goku.. probably less, but in GT Goku is said to be as strong as his dbz ssj3 form in his GT base form which then makes him 400 times stronger than he was in dbz (Stupid i know) so GT Goku just turning ssj would beat gohan but then you add the ssj4 modifier which is 10 then he would stand no chance. When you say twice as strong as Buu ss3 goku do you mean as both separately.? MA might win though. Feats are what matters, and GT characters have horrible feats. Gohan was getting his butt kicked pretty bad and was about to get killed until Goku popped up and distracted Buu. He died when Goku accidentally turned into an Oozaru and crushed him underneath his foot. do you have evidence he intended it to erase GT, and its not just one more contradiction? Mystic Gohan was a lot stronger than SS3 Goku, or SS3 fusion Gotenks for that matter. Mystic Gohan VS Black Goku (Dragonball Super Fan Animation by UHG Animation) Xuhixuc. Maybe just even with him, and SSJ1 Goku was barely stronger than Rildo. I would give it to mystic gohan. People really believe Mystic Gohan was 50 times stronger than SS3? Como cada fin de semana, otro episodio de Dragon Ball Super fue estrenado: «¡Haciendo frente al muro que hay que superar! Wouldnt it be that much more powerful or could he reach ssj4 with all that energy?? gt's databook states he can go ssj SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE he did not stop training. SSJ4 murks him, why was this bumped? DB online, 100% created and approved by Akira Toriyama, discounts the existence of GT, suggesting it never even happened at all. you ignore goku stopping a planet buster, lifting and chucking oozaru baby, and busting a dimension. 3:50. sempre existiu essa treta de quem é o mais forte, gohan mistico ou goku ssj3, mas para min é evidente que o gohan leva uma certa vantagem, pois sua transformação representa 100% do seu poder. 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Others 4 Discussions Grandpa Gohan is the elderly gentleman who found and raised the Saiyan Son Goku when he landed on Earth. @deathgorath444: No, SS GT goku destroys gohan. In light of the post attempting to prove SSJ3 Goku is superior to Mystic Gohan, I am going to briefly explain why Mystic Gohan is more powerful.The manga isn't even vague about this, so I've never really understood the argument to begin with. Gohan obtiene acceso a la forma definitiva mientras entrena en el planeta del Supremo Kaio, liberando accidentalmente a un Supremo Kaio, de varias generaciones pasadas, encarcelado en la Espada Z.Para agradecerle por liberarlo, el viejo Supremo Kaio pasa más de 20 horas realizando un extraño ritual para desbloquear todo el potencial de Gohan … SS4 is just a bunch of retarded shit that even toriyama is embarassed to say that he drew. thats then. I place Mystic on par with SSJ3 3, maybe a little higher, but SSJ4 tops that. @jashro44. I though Rildo was stronger than Kid Buu? Like x how much? Gohan en el estado Mistico, Gracias al Kaio-Shin Anciano The misconception fight between Gohan vs Goku in the Dragon Ball had the fan base hyped after episode 90 of Dragon Ball super. gohan mistico y de donde sacas que goku en la saga boo puede con gohan en ssj 3 ,incluso goku dijo cuando boo perdió la transformación de gotes funcionado , que como estaba ahora hasta el podia ganarle en pocas palabras dejo dicho claro que hasta el ya podía ganarle sin la necesidad de que gohan lo hiciera. Since he didn't, it's generally assumed that he can't. do you think dark knight returns is retarded shit cos bruce wayne's not an old man? Ultimate Gohan>SSJ3 Goku  GT characters are weak as hell in general compared to their Z counterparts. BoGT Goku still stomps. Too close to really tell a difference anyways. Really that bad? Base goku is enough to give gohan a lot of problems. he caught it with his bare hands easily. Mystic Gohan is pretty strong. Mysitc Gohan is somewhere in between SS2 and 3 forms, like SS2.5. Goku had to achieve the incomplete version of Ultra Instinct before he could attain a victory over Kefla. This was in order to test Gohan’s strength comparative to Goku. BoG (SS3) goku can take gohan in a 1 on 1. he had so much potential but he turned out to be a pansy, goku ssj3 stomps him just cuz he aint lame. Bills derroto a Gohan muy Facilmente , por lo que Goku ssj Dios Venceria a Gohan Facil pero con mas dificultad que bills , tambien influye que Gohan alla dejado de Entrenar. That wasn't Ssj4 guys, watch it again that was base goku. re: SSJ3 Goku vs Mystic Gohan In addition to Gokou being stronger than Gohan, Gokou is a better fighter. im sure he would just tell you "oh yeah well....whatever you want to count as official, you can count that as official". By exponential amounts from one level to the next. GT is stupid, can't base Trunks one shot a guy > ssj1 GT Goku? 2:08. Rildo was stronger than Buu, but maybe not stronger than (Z) SSJ3 Goku. Ssj4 contains the tremendous power of the Golden Great Ape, which is the pinnacle of a saiyans power. Anyone else wanna chime in? Mystic Gohan vs Obuni Dragon Ball Super Episode 103 English Sub. How does Goku in Z struggle with 40 tons. and its not like toriyama is ever stingy on whats canon and whats not. Respuesta preferida. Yeah I figured it was a joke which is why I answered the way I did. @robinboywonder5: you do realize mystic gogan came after gohan teenage phase, @xxxcarzellxxx: yea lol he was the strongest Saiyan in the Buu saga, Mystic Gohan gets stomped this fight by SSJ Goku (DBGT). A building, glass, and a clock gave Goku trouble in his SSJ4 state when he shoved a mountain off of himself during his fight with Kid Buu while in SSJ3. so if its canon, it is canon to the anime. In the week prior to episode 90th, where Gohan was going to have a training fight against Goku in Super Saiyan Blue, a japanese magazine gave an advancement saying this was going to happen and that mystic Gohan was going to be able to hold his own against Super Saiyan Blue Goku. Nofa. Ehh......okay, Don't know what Beerus has to do with this but fine. Anónimo. 1 1. … Personally I've always suspected that Toriyama just preferred the way Gohan looked with black hair. @omegadynasty: your both wrong. But if we're saying Goku turned ssj4 during the Buu saga Goku would still be about 5 times stronger than Gohan. maybe you can "train" to "relearn" ssj. ambos nombres son validos. Goku les dice a Milk, Bulma, y a los demás que Gohan y Vegeta murieron [Audio Latino] Darron Vail. si gohan mistico es lo mismo que gohan definitivo. SSJ4 Goku is pretty much worthless. I really want Mystic Gohan to win this, he is one of my favourite characters. your intellectually dishonest. Of course, this is assuming GT makes any kind of sense, and I've heard it doesn't, even by DBZ standards. Mystic Gohan is stronger but he isn't 50x stronger than ssj3. and a clock didnt do anything. @apex_pretador: oh ok, well by Gt in the beginning base Goku is = to dead SSJ3 Goku so SSJ1 GT Goku should at least make him able to fight Gohan in a even battle no? That being said, one can't deny that the first name that comes to the mind of anyone who hears the words Dragon Ball is Son Goku.. Mystic gohan was stronger than ss3 and ssj is 50x stronger than ssj3. 1,457 likes. 15 respuestas. You'd think this would have been a prime situation for him to change to SS or SS2 if it were possible for him to do so. Anyways Goku wins and then Trunks comes and stomps ssj4 Goku after turning SSj2, power scaling puts SSJ2 Trunks > SSJ4 Goku right? Oh, and I have GT goku a bit weaker than his SS3 self. 11:13. For me I think the question is how much stronger was Mystic Gohan compared to SSJ3 Goku? ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Gohan é sem dúvida o cara com mais potencial da saga DBZ. Gohan Místico. Your comment almost five years is extremely ironic because SSJ God Goku who was claimed to be only possibly affected by God Ki was murdered by a weak ass laser gun coming from a typical soldier. @jkfallen Let's be honest. SS4 would curbstomp mystic Gohan. Gohan wins. SS kid goku wins due to power advantage. Prior to the Tournament of Power, Gohan failed to beat Super Saiyan Blue Goku… Mystic Gohan was a lot stronger than SS3 Goku, or SS3 fusion Gotenks for that matter. Base GT Goku was said to be as powerful as SSJ3 Z Goku. Correct me if I'm wrong. Gohan ssj2 vs goku - bardack - majub. SSJ4 Goku is pretty much worthless. SS has always been a 20x multiplier for me. Reg goku in gt is equal to ssj3 dbz goku, and ssj 4 is said to be 400x base form. Goku foi capaz de luta contra kid buu e gohan mistico apanho pacas pro super buu gotenks absorvido,e kid buu supera o poder de todas suas formas ateriore Fonte(s): Meus conhecimentos sobre animes 3 9 ¿quien es mas fuerte gohan mistico o goku super sayajin 3? Quem derrotou Boo foi Goku SSJ3 , o Gohan mistico foi derrotado e absorvido por ele . Yeah that is what's going to do it for me, In order for me to deiced I need to know just how much stronger does the Mystic form make you compared to a SSJ3. Gotenks ssj3 é mais specialty que o Goku porque o Goku ssj3 só consegue controla a força do ssj3 com perfeição morto,quando ele ficou vivo ele teve dificuldade de controla esse … all lies. Ssj4 draws it's users power up to its absolute limit. I somewhat familiar with the cartoon. SSJ4 can barely lift up a building. In DBGT It is said that Goku in base form in the beginning of GT is on par with SSJ3 Goku at he end of Z. I hate GT battles and Fans with all their Bull Calcs and crappy feats, @comicsrulebutdbzdoes2: but the calcs are pretty accurate though dbgt feats aren't that bad base kid goku blew up a dimension in gt. This character has been the focal point of the series from the very first chapter of Dragon Ball and trying to change the face of the series would've been quite a hard sell to fans at that time.. 8 GOHAN… Base Goku on Planet M2 is stronger than Rildo, whose stronger than Buuhan. In that episode, we saw the true return form for Ultimate Gohan as he challenged his father to a one-on-one fight. It's the strongest non SS or fusion form anyone has. The way I've always understood it was Goku tells Pan "He's even stronger than Majin Buu" I always thought that meant "The Fat" Buu, but I could be wrong. And from a literary perspective, that's a pretty ridiculously huge plot hole to explain away. Mystic Gohan was only a little bit stronger than SSJ3. Calificación. What if gohan went super saiyan2 after he was elevated to mystic level? oh right you have no reason to say that and are bashing/lying to yourself. ss3 was not as strong, it couldnt beat super buu, but mystic crushed it. That happened with goku in gt. So if we were to take Beginning of GT Goku at SSJ1 and put him against Mystic Gohan who would win. DragonBall is inconsistent as a whole. iremos ser mais ativos. A former disciple of Master Roshi, he taught Goku everything he knew. G. how do you know its constant?how do you know it doesnt wear off over time? DBZ characters can be dumb sometimes, but deciding not to power up when you're about to die is pretty bad even for them. Para empezar la pelicula de Hildegan ocurrio algunos dias despues de la muerte de Majin Buu, por lo que Goku tendria la misma fuerza que en la pelea con Buu, la unica razon logica por lo que haya vencido a Hildegan siendo mas debil que Gohan SNS, es porque utilizo el puño del dragon lo que multiplica el poder del usuario,por lo tanto Gohan SNS le gana a Goku SSJ3 de la saga de Buu y el Goku … Gohan was getting his butt kicked pretty bad and was about to get killed until Goku popped up and distracted Buu. Gohan takes this fight, and with ease. Base Goku gt can handle ultimate gohan. bueno ten en cuenta que vegetto estaba al mismo nivel que majin buu el cual tenia grandes poderes y suma los poderes que adquirio cuando absorvio a gohan mistico ,picoro, trunks, goten Base GT Goku in baby saga = SSJ3 EoZ Goku? Was the guy right? @deathgorath444: ik that's what is making this question hard. do you like lying and making up nonsense? This thread may be done, dunno. Er, who is Mystic Gohan again? Goku takes it I doubt ultimate Gohan is 50× stronger than ss3 so I would put them at equals at best plus Goku is far more experienced and in this kind of fight that will matter. so its treating it as an add on to ultimate. This is an unholy stomp, especially if it is EoGT Goku. Now, the crappy Z feats are a joke compared to the crappy GT feats. Goku 7/10 O Gohan mistico ganha porque ele é mais specialty que o Gotenks ssj3,que é greater suitable a o Goku ssj3 então o Gohan ganha. But all-in-all I think they are roughly the same. Ssj3 Goku states he can defeat buu Piccolo, than later is afraid to face his base form stating he's too strong. Anywho I didn't wanna make it SSJ2 or SSJ3 (GT) cause then I though it would be a stomp for sure. Mystic Gohan wins. So in DBZ most people will agree that Mystic Gohan is stronger than SSJ3 Goku. How big is the gap between the Mystic and End SSJ3. Snake is using that to prove how many plotholes there are in the anime, and it can't be used as a credible source. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. this thread exists regardless of GT being an alternate world or not. olá amigos :3,por favor curtam a nossa página! Gohan was about twice as strong as buu SS3 goku. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. The most obvious reason to think this is the fight with Buutenks. hace 9 años. you intellectually dishonest fool. 18/nov/2019 - Explore a pasta "gohan vs cell" de Gonclo, seguida por 124 pessoas no Pinterest. Gohan Místico é o personagem mais poderoso de todos? SSJ4 Goku. GT characters are weak as hell in general compared to their Z counterparts. It's important to note that Goku had to reach a whole new level just to beat Kefla in the anime. My GT SS multiplier is 20x , so SS gt goku is 18x SS3 buu saga goku. En estado Base Goku es superior, en Mistico, Gohan supera la Fase 2 pero no es rival para la 3, el Blue y el Kaio-ken están fuera de su poder actual, pero a Gohan le queda mucho poder oculto, ACLARAR que solo se uso el Blue porque Gohan lo pidió, si no lo hubiera hecho el hubiera ganado si es que Goku no hubiera subido a la … I think your the first to explain why they can be very close, Good Job! 426 likes. Gt Goku base = SSJ3 Goku EoZ, i thought this for the longest time and then someone told me that's GT Goku in BABY saga, how can we trust GT fans if they forget/ignore or just flat out miss the fact that Goku powers up by EoGT? Respuesta Guardar. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. But the thing about dbz is that when people get strong, they get stronger. But Goku in GT was, from what I've heard, as strong as Kid Buu in base form. E tanto Goku … In his normal form he was able to beat both frieza and cell at the same time. 1:59. The most obvious reason to think this is the fight with Buutenks. Love gohan!! That means by GT base Goku = SS3 Buu saga Goku. that doenst mean he hated GT. Gohan lack the … ssj4 goku lifted half a city, not a building. Rildo was said to be equal to Majin Buu in strength, so it's the Buu that SSJ3 Goku faced. SSJ1 is a stomp. Gohan Mistico. Cómo dibujar a Gohan SSJ2 (Batalla de Cell) | How to draw Gohan SSJ2. he also lifted baby oozaru form and chucked him like a ragdoll. vegeta2881. Gohan místico en el planeta de los Supremos Kaio. toei created it to continue their anime universe. Obrigado yo creo que goku fase 3 ya que fue capas de mantener una pelea contra kid buu que era muy fuerte y gohan apenas pudo pelear contra buu flaco que le dio una paliza. SSJ4 Goku puts MG to sleep. Close, I really couldn't tell you which is stronger or if they're even, all I know is it's close. Mystic gohan is stronger but he isn't 50x stronger than ssj3, @deathgorath444: it was a joke but I change and give it to Ssj1 Goku. Ssj 4 stomps hard (sorry gt haters). 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